Ufm Powerplus Trevally Spec

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Another GT popping rod for overhead reel addicts

LURE: 1-4oz
LINE: 20-50lb

[edylie]

Mikey,

That is a very good looking popping rod. But in reality, Does any angler use overhead for popping?

Cheers,
Edy

[stickbom!]

I think so... some folks claim that they can cast better with overheads and I have no reason to doubt them!

[mark]

yes popping is indeed possible with OHs, i personally know of 2 guys that pop with an OHs but the chances of messing up your cast is alot more unless you're very comfortable with OH casting. so Edy, have you gotten your dream rod for your Maldives trip?

Cheers
Mark

[edylie]

Hi Mark,

Not yet man ... i am very unprepared in term of tackle and physique. Started going to gym more regularly now and sometime next week (after christmas) i will start shopping for all the necessities

Cheers,
Edy

[Sportfisherman]

Originally Posted by mark

yes popping is indeed possible with OHs, i personally know of 2 guys that pop with an OHs but the chances of messing up your cast is alot more unless you're very comfortable with OH casting. so Edy, have you gotten your dream rod for your Maldives trip?

Cheers
Mark

Guys ,

Most anglers choose spinning for popping but yes there is a minority of stubborn anglers who still use OH for popping albeit it's not an ideal outfit , in my opinion they do it just to be different as their results are hardly worth bragging about .

Sportfisherman .

[mark]

Originally Posted by Sportfisherman

Guys ,

Most anglers choose spinning for popping but yes there is a minority of stubborn anglers who still use OH for popping albeit it's not an ideal outfit , in my opinion they do it just to be different as their results are hardly worth bragging about .

Sportfisherman .

fully agreed with what you've said especially the last sentence, some even go to the extend of using mono line, retro handle, reel just to stand out from the rest.. but their result are hardly worth bragging about...

[zeck]

As long as the anglers themselves are having fun and not endangering or affecting other people, would using an OH reel or loading mono be of any concern to anyone else other than themselves?

Or am I reading it wrong to what you guys are saying?

Different strokes for different folks I say.

-zeck

[Sportfisherman]

Originally Posted by zeck

As long as the anglers themselves are having fun and not endangering or affecting other people, would using an OH reel or loading mono be of any concern to anyone else other than themselves?

Or am I reading it wrong to what you guys are saying?

Different strokes for different folks I say.

-zeck

Zeck ,

The Sprit of Corp is affected when the guy who use OH reel is keeping getting birdness after birdness in his efforts trying to cast to the required distance as achieved by the others using spinning reel .

During this process of untangling the birdness , his lure is floating on the water and his line must be retrieved fast in order not to get tangle up with others' line or worse , entangling the propellers of the boat . This slows the
movement of the boat and hence missing out casting into good spot or
surfacing tuna school .

The cursing that comes out from the angler from having the birdness is fun once or twice but if it is kept too often , others will get fed up too . I stand by my statement , OH reel is not for GT/Tuna popping .

The same with many accomplished anglers who do not want a newby caster to be among their group , beside quite dangerous the newby tends to make many mistakes which slow everybody . Right Mark R. ?

It's like trying to use road bike to handle cross country and you of all people know how futile it is in doing so .

Sportfisherman .

[zeck]

I understand Jon, and I agree 100%.

Which is why I clarified in my 1st statement, ".... and not endangering or affecting other people.." You should certainly "encourage" them to charter their own boat.

That said, again - I believe that if someone does not endanger or affect other people, then they should be able to use whatever tackle they want, including wearing a pink shirt and a yellow polka dotted red belt.

-zeck
ps. Btw, I use a roadbike to do cross country. They are surprisingly tough. Hence, crossbikes.

[Sportfisherman]

Hi Zeck ,

Frustration makes a good angler become a bad one , had a barbed treble stuck on the back of my head and had to undergo minor surgery in one of Minburi clinic courtesy one of supposedly top angler from Thailand . This was early this year and the memory is still fresh !

As for clothing , yes even fishing now start to be fashionable , nomore those Sage and Beige colors only , now Turquise blue and Orange can be found in
Coloumbia range .

Sportfisherman .

PS : As for bike , I shouldn't comment anymore , you are a biker while I am not .

[MarkR]

Agree with Sportfisherman on all counts. The glory days of UFM GT rods are long over I feel and I also doubt that any serious GT fisherman would opt for an overhead set-up these days...seems like only UFM took the trouble to make overhead GT rods...and this was years ago.

In practise, it's a bit difficult to do overhead casts/lobs with a multiplier...generally need a bigger side arc and smoother wind-up with mulipliers...so casting from a crowded rocking boat is impratical imho and can be dangerous too because of the bigger casting radius required. I also doubt that there's an overhead multiplier that's designed for GT fishing...one that is strong enough and which casts well.

Realistically, anyone who is proficient casting with an overhead outfit would probably do much better with a spinner when popping from a boat...oh well, some folks just try very hard to be different and go against the grain even if they have no valid reason to do so...

[zeck]

Originally Posted by MarkR

The glory days of UFM GT rods are long over and I also doubt a serious GT fisherman would opt for an overhead set-up these days.

I beg to differ. At least for the UFM Ulua GT rod (spinning version). I did not know they had an overhead version. Where Maldives is concerned and where long distance casting is required that is.

Case in point - I owned multiple popping rods, including a Carpenter DJ83MH which I recently sold. I still very much prefer to use the Ulua in the Maldives.

Please do not say that my TDX5000HiA "glory days" are over and I need to use a 30kg-max-drag Saltiga/Stella to be "in".

-zeck

[MarkR]

Originally Posted by zeck

Please do not say that my TDX5000HiA "glory days" are over and I need to use a 30kg-max-drag Saltiga/Stella to be "in".

I didn't say that nor did I want to imply that.

Obviously, a lot of older gear is still very much usable. However, it is hard to deny that better technology is incorporated in the newer generation rods/reels making these newer additions smoother, stronger and lighter.

[squidgie]

I use an overhead for popper work at times (off the rocks). As long as the tackle you are using is balanced ,tuned and you have the right weighted lure you can cast them easy enough and not get backlash. And, if using an overhead the skipping poppers I have found are easier to use as you can wind them in at a constant speed so you dont get loose coils on the spool from blooping and stopping. That said, I do prefer a threadline as you can cast a wider range of lures and less chance of stuffing up and ending up unpicking braid or mono birdsnests.

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by MarkR

some folks just try very hard to be different and go against the grain even if they have no valid reason to do so...

Very true indeed!!!

[zeck]

MarkR - agreed on the OH reels for popping. Whilst I have never used it, I can very well imagine the challenges.

I do not agree however with your blanket statement about "glory days of UFM being long over" hence my tongue-in-cheek pre-emptive point about the TDX.

FWIW, I prefer the TDX, as some people would prefer their old Stellas, as opposed to the latest super-duper new fangled techno-advanced reels.

-zeck

[mark]

well..fishing is all abt personal preference so there is no right or wrong just that whether life would probably be alittle easier if certain gears/tackles are being used instead of others simiply because owners wants to be different..

also have you ever wonder if those who still stick with their '98 stella are more due to their preference towards its weight then towards the old technology??..

Best Regards
Mark

[stickbom!]

Zeck, I don't think MarkR is slamming UFM. Neither are the rest who have responded here. I guess they were only commenting about the overhead style popping rod. Not everyone is tuned into the same frequency when it comes to tackle choices so its normal for them to have negative (but non the less constructive) comments.

[zeck]

Mike, I hear ya.

MarkR and the rest - I apologise if I misunderstood your posts.

-zeck