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stickbom! · 12-08-2007, 08:37 AM

A friend asked me this question via PM and I decided to post my reply here as it may come in handy for others.

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Originally Posted by stickbom!

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Originally Posted by Mr. XYZ

Hi Mike,

just to check on something.
have noticed there are some pretty long jigging sticks like 6.5 ft or near 7ft plus in the market.
and also, there are those shorter popping sticks for casting & working heavier chuggers like 7-7.2ft for example.

whats your take on using these sort of popping rods for jigging?
do you think those jigging actions, all the jerking etc, will do harm to the tip of the popping rod for example? as the tip of the popping rod is only meant for loading of the popper during casting and not meant for handling jigs which are sometimes heavier than the chuggers and constant pressure by the jerking actions from jigging?

Hello there, the only thing that will get damaged is your back if you tried to use a short popping rod to jig. Most long jerking rods (7-9 footers) have a very slow taper which makes it feel pretty much like a short jigging rod when fully loaded. Short popping rods have much faster tapers and are designed for max leverage against surface running fish + launching BIG lures without dislocating your arms in the process. There's no written rule against using short pop rods for long jerking but if I had a choice, I wouldn't really do it (again

) Hope this helps

Sportfisherman · 12-08-2007, 01:23 PM

Mike ,

In my opinion it's a matter of what one used to with , the American anglers are so used to with long jigging rod w conventional reel , they are at a loss of words now with the intoductions of short rod + spinning reel jigging outfit .

I suppose those " short " popping rod can be used as occasional jigging outfit but to get a optimum results , I think short rod is better for most anglers although Mr. Kitamura ( name correction ) is a jigger with long rod .

Jon .

stickbom! · 12-08-2007, 02:31 PM

There's no written rule against using short pop rods for long jerking

Hey Jon didn't you see my disclaimer?

Western anglers use long rods and overhead reels for flinging jigs and the fishes targeted are mostly surface or sub-surface species. Totally different ball game if you ask me. For their style of jigging, long and stiff poles will work fine

Other than personal preference, I think the use of long or short rods will depend pretty much on the required jigging style/fishing conditions.

Well bottom line is, don't take ANYONE'S words wholesale. What works for you and me may not work for others. Agreed?

Sportfisherman · 12-08-2007, 02:55 PM

Hi Mike ,

Agreed whole heartedly , everyone is different and myself had used my popping rod to jig , it was very hard work sepecially with high speed reel .

Jon .

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Originally Posted by stickbom!

There's no written rule against using short pop rods for long jerking

Hey Jon didn't you see my disclaimer?

Western anglers use long rods and overhead reels for flinging jigs and the fishes targeted are mostly surface or sub-surface species. Totally different ball game if you ask me. For their style of jigging, long and stiff poles will work fine

Other than personal preference, I think the use of long or short rods will depend pretty much on the required jigging style/fishing conditions.

Well bottom line is, don't take ANYONE'S words wholesale. What works for you and me may not work for others. Agreed?

stickbom! · 14-08-2007, 10:35 PM

Jon, what a coincidence, I did the same with my LR86 and a friend's Gusa Predator... never want to try it again

The SAURUS Char-Mas 90H & CB-ONE 84XH was a blast to jig with though

eeyore · 15-08-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportfisherman

Hi Mike ,

Agreed whole heartedly , everyone is different and myself had used my popping rod to jig , it was very hard work sepecially with high speed reel .

Jon .

Hi Jon,

Can share more on your above mentioned experienced.

So may I know it is the length of your popping rod causes you to tire out or the high speed reel make you tire more quickly ?

Thank you very much

eeyore · 15-08-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickbom!

Jon, what a coincidence, I did the same with my LR86 and a friend's Gusa Predator... never want to try it again

Hi,

Can elaborate more about your statement "... never want to try it again " very curious to know what happened ?

Tight Line

stickbom! · 17-08-2007, 07:29 PM

Eeyore, a long and fast actioned rod puts a great deal of stress on your back when you're fighting a fish vertically down/up. Most popping rods have mod/fast or fast taper so they aren't exactly the best choice for jigging. As for high speed reels and jigging, well try driving up a steep slope in high gear. See if your car protests

eeyore · 23-08-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stickbom!

Eeyore, a long and fast actioned rod puts a great deal of stress on your back when you're fighting a fish vertically down/up. Most popping rods have mod/fast or fast taper so they aren't exactly the best choice for jigging. As for high speed reels and jigging, well try driving up a steep slope in high gear. See if your car protests

Thank you very much for your input

now I got the point liao

MarkR · 23-08-2007, 11:10 PM

Eeyore, when we going casting practise huh?

12-08-2007, 01:23 PM	#2
Sportfisherman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakarta / Bali - Indonesia Posts: 250 Rep Power: 4	Re: Can short popping rods be used for jigging? Mike , In my opinion it's a matter of what one used to with , the American anglers are so used to with long jigging rod w conventional reel , they are at a loss of words now with the intoductions of short rod + spinning reel jigging outfit . I suppose those " short " popping rod can be used as occasional jigging outfit but to get a optimum results , I think short rod is better for most anglers although Mr. Kitamura ( name correction ) is a jigger with long rod . Jon .

12-08-2007, 02:31 PM	#3
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 1,993 My Mood: Rep Power: 6	Re: Can short popping rods be used for jigging? There's no written rule against using short pop rods for long jerking Hey Jon didn't you see my disclaimer? Western anglers use long rods and overhead reels for flinging jigs and the fishes targeted are mostly surface or sub-surface species. Totally different ball game if you ask me. For their style of jigging, long and stiff poles will work fine Other than personal preference, I think the use of long or short rods will depend pretty much on the required jigging style/fishing conditions. Well bottom line is, don't take ANYONE'S words wholesale. What works for you and me may not work for others. Agreed?

14-08-2007, 10:35 PM	#5
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 1,993 My Mood: Rep Power: 6	Re: Can short popping rods be used for jigging? Jon, what a coincidence, I did the same with my LR86 and a friend's Gusa Predator... never want to try it again The SAURUS Char-Mas 90H & CB-ONE 84XH was a blast to jig with though

17-08-2007, 07:29 PM	#8
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 1,993 My Mood: Rep Power: 6	Re: Can short popping rods be used for jigging? Eeyore, a long and fast actioned rod puts a great deal of stress on your back when you're fighting a fish vertically down/up. Most popping rods have mod/fast or fast taper so they aren't exactly the best choice for jigging. As for high speed reels and jigging, well try driving up a steep slope in high gear. See if your car protests

23-08-2007, 11:10 PM	#10
MarkR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 992 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: Can short popping rods be used for jigging? Eeyore, when we going casting practise huh?

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