Bluewater Fishing Expedition

stickbom! · 28-03-2006, 06:30 AM

Anyone here has suggestions for budget popping outfits

I guess this is to benefit those on a tighter budget for gear... please bear in mind that your recommendations should, if possible, be tested and proven to be "GT Proof"

thunnus · 26-06-2006, 04:33 PM

Hi....for a budget rod I still stick to ATC 7'6", rated for PE-6. It's proven to be a GT slaughter, by my self up to around 20kg and by friend of mine up to approx. 50kg......

I've heard about what happen to ATC exploded in Bali....but that was not while in fighting with the beast, it happen while being tested again the fence or a tree with very high drag ! Perhaps it was inspired from some crazy guys in the caranx forum.....

rgds,
Lod.

Sportfisherman · 30-06-2006, 10:56 PM

Guys ,

Here is a budget popper !

JonLi .

stickbom! · 02-07-2006, 10:47 AM

NICE!! Any instructions/diagrams on how to make that Al Cheapo popper? Oh by the way, Hock Heng is now selling a Penex Poder lookalike and AO has the Caranx Pen. Should go take a look when you're in town Jon.

Blackmarlin · 05-07-2006, 01:56 PM

The Lemax Grand Tournament GT 86 is not bad either. Landed a 19kg GT at Louisa at ease. Have not got a chance to test it, against those mama.

stickbom! · 05-07-2006, 11:59 PM

Good Input guys. Keep it up!

Shel · 09-07-2008, 06:14 PM

Hi guys,

I am new to this forum and as indeed to bluewater battles.

I am looking at budget outfits to try out popping. I have been told about Lemax's GT80P and its GTi but I can't seemed to find in SG.

1. Does anyone know where can I go have a look see?

As for the reel, I don't think I can afford the likes of Stella 10000HG or Saltiga Z6500GT.... So I am considering the new Shimano Saragosa 8000H(5:2:1)/ Navi8000PG since I can also use it for jigging.

2. Does anyone have any experience with the Saragosa model? Opinions?
3. I heard that this range can be use for popping and it has a bailless kit for; but the 14-18000 model is only 4:9:1? Can it really be use for popping? What advantages does going 'bailless' have?

4. I hope I don't sound too dumb but what's a 'decent' outfit going to be like and its costs...say for popping ard the region without venturing into the territories of the huge 'mamas' and 'papas'?

Do forgive if I am longwinded but I am trying to get into bluewater realm being poison with all the pictures and procrastinating.... thanks for the patience though.

Cheers

Shel

12345 · 09-07-2008, 09:57 PM

Cheap~~~~try AJIKING, few Brunei kakis bring PE#8 to Dubai landed 28-40kg GT, but the video boring cos' all GT takes long time to land and if the skipper didn't adjust boat angle for them think rod *piak* already.

Shel · 10-07-2008, 12:07 PM

Thanks 12345.... i've seen that but somehow it doesn't feel right when I hold it, seems a little heavy too...

Anything else you can recommend?

12345 · 15-07-2008, 09:33 PM

Ajiking and Lemax are the only cheap rod i've seen people used, the rest all high end so ........

Shel · 16-07-2008, 03:17 PM

Yea, looks like you're right.

Guess its either low or High.... Oh well, think i'll try the Lemax Grand Tournament but I've heard it is rather stiff when controling the fish... peanuts and monkeys I guess.....

BTW, how's the performance of Shimano's Kaibutsu? I've also heard that a newer T-Curve rod for popping is out in OZ...

Akudou · 16-07-2008, 07:57 PM

Shel, i own a kaibutsu and did my first popping on it. Try goin to this thread Popping & jigging trip Brunei waters
If you have the budget, then its a good mid range rod and value for money too. You should watch the Caranx kaibutsu dvd and look at the action of different models which will suit your needs.Hope this helps you making up your mind on the popping rod.
Cheers,
Felix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shel

Yea, looks like you're right.

Guess its either low or High.... Oh well, think i'll try the Lemax Grand Tournament but I've heard it is rather stiff when controling the fish... peanuts and monkeys I guess.....

BTW, how's the performance of Shimano's Kaibutsu? I've also heard that a newer T-Curve rod for popping is out in OZ...

Jimmytin · 18-09-2008, 05:45 PM

Hi Bros,

I am trying to do both bottom/popping on my next trip. I had a Daiwa Saltiga Z30L paired with Hiramasa 56HB rod for bottom fishing. Don't know which popping rod for Saltiga Z4500H to married now (don't want to married Daiwa any more, will try another JDM brand). And what weight & size of popper will work for a beginner like me ?

It would help if you guy pros can give me some advice so that i can make a right choice.

Thanks
Jimmy

stickbom! · 19-09-2008, 10:49 AM

Try the Shimano Kaibutsu Light Pleasure Jimmy. It'll match your Z4500 pretty nicely!

Jimmytin · 19-09-2008, 06:27 PM

Thanks Stickbom bro.
I also get advice from some bros to try Zenaq Fokeeto 76 and/or 80 Trevally.
What do you think about Shimano & Zenaq ? Which one is better ?
Thanks again.

Giant-Todak · 19-09-2008, 11:27 PM

I think the 83-7 zenaq no stock liao. Let mi noe if u can find one. Been looking for one too.

Akudou · 22-09-2008, 11:07 AM

Dude, tjhe zenaq have quite a goor respond frm it due to its price. As far as i know, they doesnt seem to be any complain on the Caranx Kaibutsu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmytin

Thanks Stickbom bro.
I also get advice from some bros to try Zenaq Fokeeto 76 and/or 80 Trevally.
What do you think about Shimano & Zenaq ? Which one is better ?
Thanks again.

Giant-Todak · 22-09-2008, 11:23 AM

Akudou, care to share more?

Akudou · 22-09-2008, 11:25 AM

Which one do u wanna know more about? do u have an msn? maybe we can discuss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant-Todak

Akudou, care to share more?

Jimmytin · 22-09-2008, 12:48 PM

Hi Akudou,
Zenaq Fokeeto, can you give us some advice on this ?

Giant-Todak · 22-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Yup, the Zenaq as im looking at this rod for mi maldives trip too.

Giant-Todak · 22-09-2008, 03:41 PM

Any ups about the Saragosa. Is it enough for popping in the Maldives?

Akudou · 23-09-2008, 07:54 PM

As far as im concern, i have some reviews from my someone who has the jigging rods. I believe the popping rods are very new. How much is it compared to the caranx kaibutsu?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmytin

Hi Akudou,
Zenaq Fokeeto, can you give us some advice on this ?

eeyore · 24-09-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akudou

As far as im concern, i have some reviews from my someone who has the jigging rods. I believe the popping rods are very new. How much is it compared to the caranx kaibutsu?

i think the diff in price range from $250 to $350 of course with the kaibutsu on the lower side.

Jimmytin · 24-09-2008, 02:51 PM

eeyore bro,
Do you mean Kaibutsu price tag is us$250 to us$350 ? Or it's cheaper than Zenaq us$250 to us$350. Thanks.

28-03-2006, 06:30 AM	#1
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,518 My Mood: Rep Power: 9	Budget Popping Outfits Anyone here has suggestions for budget popping outfits I guess this is to benefit those on a tighter budget for gear... please bear in mind that your recommendations should, if possible, be tested and proven to be "GT Proof"

05-07-2006, 01:56 PM	#5
Blackmarlin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 101 Rep Power: 6	Popping The Lemax Grand Tournament GT 86 is not bad either. Landed a 19kg GT at Louisa at ease. Have not got a chance to test it, against those mama. __________________ BlackMarlin

09-07-2008, 06:14 PM	#7
Shel Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Hi guys, I am new to this forum and as indeed to bluewater battles. I am looking at budget outfits to try out popping. I have been told about Lemax's GT80P and its GTi but I can't seemed to find in SG. 1. Does anyone know where can I go have a look see? As for the reel, I don't think I can afford the likes of Stella 10000HG or Saltiga Z6500GT.... So I am considering the new Shimano Saragosa 8000H(5:2:1)/ Navi8000PG since I can also use it for jigging. 2. Does anyone have any experience with the Saragosa model? Opinions? 3. I heard that this range can be use for popping and it has a bailless kit for; but the 14-18000 model is only 4:9:1? Can it really be use for popping? What advantages does going 'bailless' have? 4. I hope I don't sound too dumb but what's a 'decent' outfit going to be like and its costs...say for popping ard the region without venturing into the territories of the huge 'mamas' and 'papas'? Do forgive if I am longwinded but I am trying to get into bluewater realm being poison with all the pictures and procrastinating.... thanks for the patience though. Cheers Shel Last edited by Shel : 10-07-2008 at 09:25 AM.

10-07-2008, 12:07 PM	#9
Shel Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Thanks 12345.... i've seen that but somehow it doesn't feel right when I hold it, seems a little heavy too... Anything else you can recommend?

15-07-2008, 09:33 PM	#10
12345 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brunei Posts: 308 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Ajiking and Lemax are the only cheap rod i've seen people used, the rest all high end so ........

26-06-2006, 04:33 PM	#2
thunnus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Surabaya Posts: 157 Rep Power: 6	Hi....for a budget rod I still stick to ATC 7'6", rated for PE-6. It's proven to be a GT slaughter, by my self up to around 20kg and by friend of mine up to approx. 50kg...... I've heard about what happen to ATC exploded in Bali....but that was not while in fighting with the beast, it happen while being tested again the fence or a tree with very high drag ! Perhaps it was inspired from some crazy guys in the caranx forum..... rgds, Lod.

02-07-2006, 10:47 AM	#4
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,518 My Mood: Rep Power: 9	NICE!! Any instructions/diagrams on how to make that Al Cheapo popper? Oh by the way, Hock Heng is now selling a Penex Poder lookalike and AO has the Caranx Pen. Should go take a look when you're in town Jon.

05-07-2006, 11:59 PM	#6
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,518 My Mood: Rep Power: 9	Good Input guys. Keep it up!

09-07-2008, 09:57 PM	#8
12345 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brunei Posts: 308 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Cheap~~~~try AJIKING, few Brunei kakis bring PE#8 to Dubai landed 28-40kg GT, but the video boring cos' all GT takes long time to land and if the skipper didn't adjust boat angle for them think rod piak already.

16-07-2008, 03:17 PM	#11
Shel Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Yea, looks like you're right. Guess its either low or High.... Oh well, think i'll try the Lemax Grand Tournament but I've heard it is rather stiff when controling the fish... peanuts and monkeys I guess..... BTW, how's the performance of Shimano's Kaibutsu? I've also heard that a newer T-Curve rod for popping is out in OZ...

18-09-2008, 05:45 PM	#13
Jimmytin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vietnam Posts: 6 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Hi Bros, I am trying to do both bottom/popping on my next trip. I had a Daiwa Saltiga Z30L paired with Hiramasa 56HB rod for bottom fishing. Don't know which popping rod for Saltiga Z4500H to married now (don't want to married Daiwa any more, will try another JDM brand). And what weight & size of popper will work for a beginner like me ? It would help if you guy pros can give me some advice so that i can make a right choice. Thanks Jimmy

19-09-2008, 10:49 AM	#14
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,518 My Mood: Rep Power: 9	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Try the Shimano Kaibutsu Light Pleasure Jimmy. It'll match your Z4500 pretty nicely! __________________

19-09-2008, 06:27 PM	#15
Jimmytin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vietnam Posts: 6 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Thanks Stickbom bro. I also get advice from some bros to try Zenaq Fokeeto 76 and/or 80 Trevally. What do you think about Shimano & Zenaq ? Which one is better ? Thanks again.

19-09-2008, 11:27 PM	#16
Giant-Todak Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sg Posts: 70 Rep Power: 5	Re: Budget Popping Outfits I think the 83-7 zenaq no stock liao. Let mi noe if u can find one. Been looking for one too.

22-09-2008, 11:23 AM	#18
Giant-Todak Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sg Posts: 70 Rep Power: 5	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Akudou, care to share more?

22-09-2008, 12:48 PM	#20
Jimmytin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vietnam Posts: 6 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Hi Akudou, Zenaq Fokeeto, can you give us some advice on this ?

22-09-2008, 02:58 PM	#21
Giant-Todak Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sg Posts: 70 Rep Power: 5	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Yup, the Zenaq as im looking at this rod for mi maldives trip too.

22-09-2008, 03:41 PM	#22
Giant-Todak Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sg Posts: 70 Rep Power: 5	Re: Budget Popping Outfits Any ups about the Saragosa. Is it enough for popping in the Maldives?

24-09-2008, 02:51 PM	#25
Jimmytin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vietnam Posts: 6 My Mood: Rep Power: 0	Re: Budget Popping Outfits eeyore bro, Do you mean Kaibutsu price tag is us$250 to us$350 ? Or it's cheaper than Zenaq us$250 to us$350. Thanks.

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