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MarkR · 15-04-2005, 01:29 AM

Hi Mikey,

Note that you've had success with the hooker, just got some and need some advice.

Is there a preferred way to work this jig? Long jerk? Will Taiwan style high pitch short jerk with an overhead reel produce an ok action for this jig? The seves seas vids show the overhead guys using the long jerk technique as well so just wondering...

Thanks

stickbom! · 15-04-2005, 12:57 PM

Hi Mark, Hookers flutter on the drop so you will need to let it sink a little to get the best action. This is why we do a sink and draw style.

By the way, Im not sure what HIGH PITCH SHORT JERK means

Sounds like something from the Karma Sutra

MarkR · 15-04-2005, 01:51 PM

Hi Mikey,

I guess there are many different jigging styles and names for these styles but here is the high pitch short jerk method from setsuo's website:

http://www002.upp.so-net.ne.jp/Ham/pescare/tactacs.html

I find this method much easier for heavy jigs (375g upwards) with an overhead outfit underarm...can't do the one jerk one crank thing with heavy jigs using a spinner while keeping the rod vertical, can't get the balance and rhythm, pretty tiring too...on the other hand the long jerk method is definitely much easier with a spinner outfit for both heavy n light jigs.

I know some jiggers with spinning outfits do a side jerk when using heavy jigs, seems easier than trying to keep the rod vertical and most people whom i've seen jigging underarm with spinners do something that appears to be in between the high pitch short jerk and long jerk method ie. one side jerk and 2 or 3 cranks.

Recently however saw a jigger with a very interesting style. Rapid short jerks and half cranks with a long spinning outfit (about 6 foot rod length), rod (think it was a monster cc) was in the belt and rod tip kept high at all times about 10-12 o'clock rod tip movement, guy was using a heavy 600g short profile jig...pretty effective...make any sense

Now thinking that getting a longer jigging rod (6 foot or so) for my spinner set up would be good a idea.

tight lines

jason · 16-04-2005, 12:58 AM

Hi MarkR
I still prefer the Mad Dog Fxxking style of jigging.....Hahahahhahahaaha!!!!
Still cant get the rhythm of the under arm one crank one jerk jigging style.......
I will prefer a overhead for heavy jigging....(Maybe not used to spinning reels for jigging)

Cheers
Jason

Fish_Fingers · 18-04-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR

Hi Mikey,

Note that you've had success with the hooker, just got some and need some advice.

Wow Mr Stickbom. Didn't know you had lots of experience with Hookers...... Perhaps you can show us some of your jerking techniques too..... Hee hee.......

stickbom! · 18-04-2005, 05:51 PM

That one must ask JB WANG ZI to show you lar... me only use LEAD Hookers... for the REAL thing go ask the PRO.

jason · 19-04-2005, 03:02 PM

That is a good one ,Fish Fingers.....
Hehehehehheehehehehe!!!!!!!

Cheers
jason

mark · 25-04-2005, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickbom!

That one must ask JB WANG ZI to show you lar... me only use LEAD Hookers... for the REAL thing go ask the PRO.

mike i agreed with you, if looking ard for hookers get only those Lead ones cos i'm sure there is reasons why they are leading in their profession.... so mike where you buy those hookers from???

stickbom! · 26-04-2005, 11:21 AM

Alamak... I better dun use Hookers anymore... change to Duel or Jig Ace no need kena suan siao

Juan · 10-11-2006, 08:15 PM

Hi guys,

apologised for digging up an old thread. just wondering...is it true that its harder to jig 500g jigs using spin outfit? anyone would like to share their experience?

stickbom! · 11-11-2006, 09:10 AM

Dun really see the relation between Hooker 1 and spin gear/500g jigs but NO, I did not have any problems with heavier jigs on spin gear. FYI I've used jigs up to 30oz on my Stella SW20000PG.

Juan · 11-11-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

I find this method much easier for heavy jigs (375g upwards) with an overhead outfit underarm...can't do the one jerk one crank thing with heavy jigs using a spinner while keeping the rod vertical, can't get the balance and rhythm, pretty tiring too...on the other hand the long jerk method is definitely much easier with a spinner outfit for both heavy n light jigs.

because MarkR was saying the above which i find it interesting. anyway thanks!

stickbom! · 12-11-2006, 10:26 AM

Its all personal preference. MarkR can work the overhead like a pro... and find himself fumbling with the spinner... just like a few of my friends. Doubt you can find the answer here... IMHO just go out and try which style suits yourself better.

15-04-2005, 01:29 AM	#1
MarkR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,030 My Mood: Rep Power: 6	Seven Seas Hooker 1 Hi Mikey, Note that you've had success with the hooker, just got some and need some advice. Is there a preferred way to work this jig? Long jerk? Will Taiwan style high pitch short jerk with an overhead reel produce an ok action for this jig? The seves seas vids show the overhead guys using the long jerk technique as well so just wondering... Thanks

16-04-2005, 12:58 AM	#4
jason Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 718 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	Hi MarkR I still prefer the Mad Dog Fxxking style of jigging.....Hahahahhahahaaha!!!! Still cant get the rhythm of the under arm one crank one jerk jigging style....... I will prefer a overhead for heavy jigging....(Maybe not used to spinning reels for jigging) Cheers Jason __________________

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jason Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 718 My Mood: Rep Power: 5	That is a good one ,Fish Fingers..... Hehehehehheehehehehe!!!!!!! Cheers jason __________________

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15-04-2005, 12:57 PM	#2
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,004 My Mood: Rep Power: 7	Hi Mark, Hookers flutter on the drop so you will need to let it sink a little to get the best action. This is why we do a sink and draw style. By the way, Im not sure what HIGH PITCH SHORT JERK means Sounds like something from the Karma Sutra

15-04-2005, 01:51 PM	#3
MarkR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,030 My Mood: Rep Power: 6	Hi Mikey, I guess there are many different jigging styles and names for these styles but here is the high pitch short jerk method from setsuo's website: http://www002.upp.so-net.ne.jp/Ham/pescare/tactacs.html I find this method much easier for heavy jigs (375g upwards) with an overhead outfit underarm...can't do the one jerk one crank thing with heavy jigs using a spinner while keeping the rod vertical, can't get the balance and rhythm, pretty tiring too...on the other hand the long jerk method is definitely much easier with a spinner outfit for both heavy n light jigs. I know some jiggers with spinning outfits do a side jerk when using heavy jigs, seems easier than trying to keep the rod vertical and most people whom i've seen jigging underarm with spinners do something that appears to be in between the high pitch short jerk and long jerk method ie. one side jerk and 2 or 3 cranks. Recently however saw a jigger with a very interesting style. Rapid short jerks and half cranks with a long spinning outfit (about 6 foot rod length), rod (think it was a monster cc) was in the belt and rod tip kept high at all times about 10-12 o'clock rod tip movement, guy was using a heavy 600g short profile jig...pretty effective...make any sense Now thinking that getting a longer jigging rod (6 foot or so) for my spinner set up would be good a idea. tight lines

18-04-2005, 05:51 PM	#6
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,004 My Mood: Rep Power: 7	That one must ask JB WANG ZI to show you lar... me only use LEAD Hookers... for the REAL thing go ask the PRO.

26-04-2005, 11:21 AM	#9
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,004 My Mood: Rep Power: 7	Alamak... I better dun use Hookers anymore... change to Duel or Jig Ace no need kena suan siao

10-11-2006, 08:15 PM	#10
Juan Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: SG Posts: 142 My Mood: Rep Power: 4	Hi guys, apologised for digging up an old thread. just wondering...is it true that its harder to jig 500g jigs using spin outfit? anyone would like to share their experience?

11-11-2006, 09:10 AM	#11
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,004 My Mood: Rep Power: 7	Dun really see the relation between Hooker 1 and spin gear/500g jigs but NO, I did not have any problems with heavier jigs on spin gear. FYI I've used jigs up to 30oz on my Stella SW20000PG.

12-11-2006, 10:26 AM	#13
stickbom! Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Eastern Sider Posts: 2,004 My Mood: Rep Power: 7	Its all personal preference. MarkR can work the overhead like a pro... and find himself fumbling with the spinner... just like a few of my friends. Doubt you can find the answer here... IMHO just go out and try which style suits yourself better.

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