The future of Jigging Blanks?

[MarkR]

More about the Venoms from the Synit website:

Synit Fishing NZ - Rods

Blanks are rolled by Kilwell Fiber Tubes in NZ and hand wrapped by Synit in NZ.

[Patudo]

Mm, could be a very nice pitch bait rod for blue marlin. What reel would you recommend to go with it, spinning and conventional? Needs to have at least 500 yards of around 80 lb test braid and around 40 lb maximum drag.

[MarkR]

Mm, could be a very nice pitch bait rod for blue marlin. What reel would you recommend to go with it, spinning and conventional? Needs to have at least 500 yards of around 80 lb test braid and around 40 lb maximum drag.

Hi Dustin,

The Venoms can be built for either spinning or conventional reels...the big boy in the series (V550) is rated for a max of PE10...so I think the Saltigas 6500s or Stella 20000s would be a good fit...for conventionals perhaps a magnum 4/0 reel or even an ATD6 would fit the bill...

cheers,
mark

[Nev]

Hi Mark,
Couple of pics of the first one made being tested at White Island NZ.
200g rod, 33kg NZ Kingi

[stickbom!]

Hi Mark,
Couple of pics of the first one made being tested at White Island NZ.
200g rod, 33kg NZ Kingi

Jeez... that's quite a bend there Nev! Nice Kingie too!

[Nev]

That blank was the first we made with the new material. It is made on the same mandrel as the rod Mogi used recently so you can see the design has progressed a lot in the last 12mths. When Mr Mogi came to NZ to chase BFT recently they brought a few rods down to show me the direction that some of the Japanese designers were heading. It was interesting to see as we had just made samples very similar for Gman. The rods Synit are making for Mark are based on the latest version so will be a little different from the sample he currently has.
Nev

[MarkR]

Thanks Nev for dropping by Fishing Outing. We can all learn a lot a lot from your experience and expertise in blank design.

A 33kg Kingie is a monster!

Here are more pics of the Venoms in action...

[trick]

Can i ask what is the length of the factory blank?

[Nev]

Because of the mandrel being used on the latest version, it is best suited for a max. length of 5'3".
While we do test for maximum lift capabilities, our main aim now is to design a rod that reduces the pressure on the angler when running higher drag settings.

[MarkR]

An example of how the Venoms have developed over the last 12 months...

Here is the latest version of the Venom in action...............

Tip sections will work a huge range of jig weights and the mid and butt sections offer excellent lift and power that is unmatched while still being parabolic through the hand.

The photo shows the action of the V250FT under load, note how the top third of the rod has folded completely away allowing the mid section to do the lifting, the bend has still gone back into the fore grip for control but as this angler found out the rod dealt to the fish that easily he could fight it with comfort from under the arm.

[NAZA]

Mikey,
Your surf poison too deep already...
surf rod so long, if the stingray stick to the bottom, how to pluck the line har?

AGREE...........

[benz]

nice...
If its not much of a hassle, kindly PM me the various models available & the damage to own one.

Regards
Ben

[madmonksg]

Hi,

kindly PM me too. Thanks.

[Narc]

Hi guys,

MarkR is currently fishing overseas thus probably most of you haven't got a reply yet.

He will be back on wednesday so be sure to hear from him soon.

[MarkR]

Synit Venom V450FT lift tests...built on the latest mandrel design with Synit Carbon technology...95% carbon blank...very very light!

41kg at 45 degrees and 19kg vertical dead-lift...134g blank weight

Four Venom models will be available...250g, 350g, 450g and 550g.

[du1]

Wow interesting new rods, 450 would be nice to have..

[shineshy]

MarkR bro can pm me the price range ? thanks

[galanted]

IMHO, this is the best blank i have come across so far. Taking the competitors down in terms of dead weight lift testing, finishing & physical weight.

[MarkR]

IMHO, this is the best blank i have come across so far. Taking the competitors down in terms of dead weight lift testing, finishing & physical weight.

Thanks Joseph...you will not be disappointed...shipment just arrived:

Synit Venoms have arrived!

[Patudo]

Looking at those photos.. OK we know that the blank won't break when a 41kg or whatever weight is hung off the end, which is a pretty amazing achievement as it is. But, when it's bent like that, can the rod allow you the fisherman to lift up the weight (OK not 41kg, that's crazy, but say 15 to 20kg with 100 lb line) say 30 cm to one foot with the rod? I ask this because it's one thing to build a rod that will not break but it also needs to be able to lift the fish under heavy pressure. Those tips that fold away seem to give you very little rod length to clear the boat, is that ever a problem?

[MarkR]

Looking at those photos.. OK we know that the blank won't break when a 41kg or whatever weight is hung off the end, which is a pretty amazing achievement as it is. But, when it's bent like that, can the rod allow you the fisherman to lift up the weight (OK not 41kg, that's crazy, but say 15 to 20kg with 100 lb line) say 30 cm to one foot with the rod? I ask this because it's one thing to build a rod that will not break but it also needs to be able to lift the fish under heavy pressure. Those tips that fold away seem to give you very little rod length to clear the boat, is that ever a problem?

Hi Dustin,

A very valid question indeed especially when one is dealing with rods that give amazing dead lift...personally I feel that Synit has got the designs on the Venoms very well worked out...the kevlar reinforced butt section on the 350, 450 & 550 blanks combined with their newer fast taper mandrel design give the Synits very good lifting power...their 250 blank on the other hand is not kevlar reinforced but has very nice different form of carbon fibre reinforcement at the butt section...I hear there are good reasons for not using Kevlar on this lighter blank...the V550 is a beast and feels up to the task to tackle big fish...I hope to get a good doggie with this rod in the next couple of months with the 550 ...perhaps Nev from NZ can chip in with more information on the evolution of the Venom designs...

[Nev]

A pic of Sean fishing Three Kings NZ testing one of the early designs.

"The rod is a Synit Hellbent Exorcist. It's a prototype spriral wrapped(acid) made to fish PE10. It has ALPS componenents and the blank was designed and constucted in NZ. Synit has a range of Acid wrapped jig rods out now....and they are very, very cool!!!
The reel is an Ocea Jigger 5000P with the carbontex drag kit and plate......an awesome heavy jigging reel."

[Nev]

Mark, The 250g is available with carbon kevlar(KEVFT250g) but the woven carbon model has a higher test strength which is why I recomended it to Synit.
In terms of lifting, if the rods bends over but does not lift the 40kg off the ground then all you have done is make a rod that wont break. However any rod that can lift 30kg+ of the ground and not break then it has the capability to catch fish like Sean's Hapuka.
The reality is nobody will fish with much more than 25kgs of drag so the rod will never bend over to that extent.

[MarkR]

Thanks Nev for the explanation...I read on another forum that u guys test the blanks by bouncing weights and shock loading...and not just static load tests...

[Nev]

I havent tried that myself but I understand Graeme has. I guess if you were going to try that you would base if off the drag setting you intend to use.