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Old 05-08-2006, 10:05 AM   #1
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Baitcasting or spinning ?

Hi guys,

I'd like to have your opinion on this one....... From the beginning, I knew that the blank rod is create only one type. Which is mean it's up to the rod builder to make it for a baitcasting or spinning rod.....

But, recently a friend of mine convinced me that from the blank rod factory, it isn't to be that way. Blank comes into two types, for baitcasting and for spinning.....

Which one is true

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Old 05-08-2006, 12:17 PM   #2
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Hi guys,

I'd like to have your opinion on this one....... From the beginning, I knew that the blank rod is create only one type. Which is mean it's up to the rod builder to make it for a baitcasting or spinning rod.....

But, recently a friend of mine convinced me that from the blank rod factory, it isn't to be that way. Blank comes into two types, for baitcasting and for spinning.....

Which one is true

rgds,
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Hi Lod,

This is a tough call. Some are of the opinion that there is a difference, some don't ..... hor ... Narc Some manufacturers classify their blanks as spinning vs BC, some don't.

I think the issue comes more to the fore with regards to perhaps the thinner-walled and more fragile grahite blanks. IMHO, spinning blanks have more stress on them because there is a tendency for the guide foot to "dig" into the blank under pressure viz. referring to rods built with doublefoot guides only. The risk of this happening is higher if the guides are not positioned properly in the right places along the bend of the rod under pressure. This problem is largely alleviated if you use an experienced rod builder, plus heavier rods should have an underbind to cushion the blank surface to begin with. How the rod builder grind the guide foot will also play a part as well.

At the end of the day, should the make of blanks you choose specifically classify their products according to spinning or overhead, just choose accordingly to meet your needs. Should you decide to build a spinning configuration out of a blank specified for overhead reels or vice-versa, that would void all warranties, wouldn't it?

Hope this helps.

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Thanks for your respond Mak.....

Okay, let's assume that there's a difference between BC & spinner blank. And some manufacturers don't classify their blanks. So, how can we determine which one is BC and vice versa ?

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So far i've come across Gloomis makes 2 different blanks for light tackles for casting only, as for 30lb & up blanks don seems to make any difference. i'm sure rod builder knows where to palce their guides for spinning & overhead, there is no difference in the blanks.

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Thanks for your respond Mak.....

Okay, let's assume that there's a difference between BC & spinner blank. And some manufacturers don't classify their blanks. So, how can we determine which one is BC and vice versa ?

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Hi Lod,

Good question. I am no expert in building rods, but IMHO, the main thing is still to get the backbone right first of all, and secondly, to space & use the right kind of guides for the application. When a builder splines the blank, I believe there is always a choice of whether to place the guides on "top" or the "bottom" side of the spine. I may be wrong, but I think a builder would place the guides on one side over the other, depending on whether it is for spinning or for overhead. I leave such decisions to the rod builder.

Even if a manufacturer seperates BC from spinning blanks, only they will know what the difference between the two really is -- perhaps slightly thicker wall for spinning blanks? Or it may simply be a marketing gimmick & actually the blanks are exactly the same.

Saimee ..... any insights into Lod's query?

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Lod n Mak ,

If I compare my MBR783/2C and Acun/ChiSiong's SJ783/2S rods , mine has
a stiffer action on the tip part , by the way these rods are all GLX blanks .

As these are all 2 pc. Travel Rods versions , not sure the lower part either
but take a look at the images , the guys are high-sticking their SJ783/2C
GLXs but nobody took my photo with the MBR783/2C underload .

I tend to suspect the stiffer b.c. version is of thicker wall section because
all GLX blanks have the same modulus and methods of laying the graphite layers .

The next time I go freshwater fishing with those guys mentioned , I must take diameter measurements of the tip sections .

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not too sure if blanks sold in the market has got any difference between spinning and bait but some factory rods are not built using the same blank, take for instance, Tenryu Jig Zam, even thou their bait and spinning models is having similar line, jig weight rating and length, their tip and butt dia. as well as their glass and carbon content are totally different and there is no PE 5 model for their bait model whereas there is a PE3-5 for spinning.
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spec from their website...

http://fishing.tenryu-magna.com/112jigz.html
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