Up & coming 2-speed bosses

[benz]

People,

Any other info on the coming 2-speed bosses? Understand from AO that only the 870 has this function...

Regards
Ben

[sunburned]

Hi Ben,

Check out the following Melton Tackle link: Accurate Magnum Boss 2-Speed Reels from Melton International Tackle. Its got some specs, pricing, and delivery date information. Not much is said on other US sites about this reel, but its already released for trials a while ago.

Cheers,
Khoo

[DaFrogman]

Isn't it interesting to see that now Accurate seem to be reacting to the products of other manufacturers. In the past when Accurate came out with twin disc drags, other manufacturers started coming out with twin lever drags, maybe not twin disc drags, but at least twin drag surfaces on a single drag plate.

Now it seems that Accurate have invested a lot in the Twinspin in response to the high end spinner market from Shimano and Daiwa. It also seems that they are responding to Avets domination of the smaller metal 2-speed reels... great stuff for us consumers though, am certainly not complaining.

I am interested to hear of what most guys would use these pocket 2-speeds for though?.... Is the extra weight of the 2 speed mechanism worth it for the jiggers here?.

Regards,

Saimee

[stickbom!]

Personally two speeds are great if you're going to use the same reel for bottom/jigging.

[MarkR]

Personally, it would be nice to have 2-speed 665N for jigging if the weight is right. I also wonder if the ATD-6 will be phased out since the line capacity for the 665 and ATD-6 are very close. But I really don't know about 2 speed gearing for an 870 and 270...I doubt if many folks would want to fork out the extra $ for 2 speed gearing for reels of this size.

[sunburned]

Originally Posted by MarkR

it would be nice to have 2-speed 665N for jigging if the weight is right

I thought so as well - would it be 'accurate' to say that its like having a Jigger 4000P with lever drags and 2-speeds on it?

The 2-speed Accurates should cost about US$100 more than their twin-drag counterparts, premium priced for afficionados who still prefer the Accurates over the more moderately priced 2-speed Avets.

Cheers,
Khoo

[MarkR]

Hi Khoo,

That would be a fairly accurate statement.

Personally feel that the jigger is more balanced and less effort required for the crank over long periods. Can't say how a 2-speed 665 would perform yet, but it does sound very interesting!

cheers

[benz]

Thanks, Khoo.

So, the damage would be in the S$800 region once it reaches our shores yes?

Pray for good bonus! Should be a pretty good toy to fool around with...

Regards
Ben

[Blackmarlin]

Originally Posted by MarkR

Hi Khoo,

That would be a fairly accurate statement.

Personally feel that the jigger is more balanced and less effort required for the crank over long periods. Can't say how a 2-speed 665 would perform yet, but it does sound very interesting!

cheers

Hahahaha, now MarkR definitely swear by the Jigger after a successfully landing of the 68kg Dogtooth Tuna.

[DaFrogman]

Hey Meltons have stock of the 870 2-Speeds;

Accurate Magnum Boss 2-Speed Reels from Melton International Tackle

Mak,

You have them yet?.... Hey I wish they would just offer me a 665 in 5:1 ratio single speed.

Saimee

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by DaFrogman

You have them yet?.... Hey I wish they would just offer me a 665 in 5:1 ratio single speed.

Saimee

Yo Saimee...... was suppose to take the prototype to the Maldives with me, but it did not come back from the anodising in time for the trip. Have played with it though when the piece first came into AO. Nifty little bugger and the gear changing mechanism is pretty neat -- a miniturised version of the ATD system. It is back in the shop now for those interested to fiddle with it. It's the one that is anodized matte black with the silver spool -- an 870. Any assessment from me will be tainted cos I love them Accurates to begin with. So best for those interested to go down & tinkle with it first hand.

Can hardly wait for the 665 extra narrow 2 speed version to come out!!!!!

[sunburned]

Hi Makaira,

That black beauty is a real pocket rocket, with cast control and the same gearing as the ATDs as well. It felt a little rough compared to the on-the-shelf single speed reels at AO though. I also think that scratches might be more evident on a black anodized reel. What do ya think?

Khoo

P.S. - Here's a 2-speed silver and red 870 Boss Magnum for comparison.

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by sunburned

Hi Makaira,

That black beauty is a real pocket rocket, with cast control and the same gearing as the ATDs as well. It felt a little rough compared to the on-the-shelf single speed reels at AO though. I also think that scratches might be more evident on a black anodized reel. What do ya think?

Hi Khoo,

That black beauty is a prototype and the anodising was done locally. In that form i.e. matte finish, I totally agree that it will probably scratch to kingdom come with use I have a 665N with original black anodisation from the US and it is the hardiest of all the coloured Boss reels I have. From the little I know about anodisation, I understand that black is actually the "hardest"; as in toughest in the context of the process. As such, I do not have any hesitation in getting more black beauties in the future

As far as the smoothness is concerned, I think we will have to check out the full production models before coming to a conclusion. The reel in the shop was sort of "thrown together" in a hurry as a sample for the SE Asian market.

Best regards,
Makaira

[jerk]

About anodisation, the longer they take to process the andoise treatment, the tougher coat of andoise u will get. this is wat i heard from a local factory tht does metal treatment.

[Makaira]

Hi J,

From what I understand, as there is no demand in Singapore, the anodisation available in Singapore is NOT marinized i.e. not suitable for use in salt water. Or it may be a case of not having found a company here that does it, or maybe it is way too expensive for marinized anodization on a small scale. Maybe you can ask your friend for more information on this?

Best regards,
Makaira

[sunburned]

Originally Posted by Makaira

From the little I know about anodisation, I understand that black is actually the "hardest"; as in toughest in the context of the process. As such, I do not have any hesitation in getting more black beauties in the future

As far as the smoothness is concerned, I think we will have to check out the full production models before coming to a conclusion.

Hi Makaira,

Yes, I heard that the black anodisation is difficult to do. You should hang onto your 665N! Did you get your orange anodisation done in the US as well?

Agree with your comment about the smoothness. I await the production models with anticipation.

Best Regards,
Khoo

[Strikes]

I personally try meddling with this prototype in AO. Actually, i could not find any difference in weight between the 2 Speed 870 and single speed 870. It is easy to use and looks cool.

Cost approx $800++.

Anyone interested?

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by sunburned

Hi Makaira,

Yes, I heard that the black anodisation is difficult to do. You should hang onto your 665N! Did you get your orange anodisation done in the US as well?

Hi Khoo,

These special colour reels are limited production runs that AO periodically has when new models are launched. As such, they are anodized ex-Accurate factory. I am sure when the new 2 speeds come along, there will be some that come in special colours. Having said that, coloured Accurate reels, including the ATD, can be special ordered from AO at a premium anytime

As far as anodization is concerned, I may be mistaken, but I remember reading somewhere that black colour is actually the easiest to do.

Best regards,
Makaira

[sunburned]

Originally Posted by Makaira

As far as anodization is concerned, I may be mistaken, but I remember reading somewhere that black colour is actually the easiest to do.

Best regards,
Makaira

Hi Makaira,

I've known of black anodized metal parts (mil-spec) that have faded in color over time. This was attributed to either ozone or chemical exposure (e.g. chlorine) during the anodization process, or the fact that they weren't sealed, not so much of a dye problem. Then again, what do I know about it since I'm not in the metal finishing business? I'm just into fishing!

Best Regards,
Khoo

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by sunburned

I'm just into fishing!

Best Regards,
Khoo

My sentiments exactly!!!!!

All I know is my black Accurate is heavily used and there is hardly a scratch on it (touch wood!!!) The orange 870N is pretty scratched up & the blue 665N has also some superficial scratches too. As for my other silver reels ........ no eye see ....... It is not that the anodisation is not good, but I do not baby my reels when I am fishing and so they take a lot of abuse. Black has stood up to the torture best. So unless they come up with some other totally irresistable colours ... like maybe gunmetal ...... I will stick with black.