Max drag for Daiwa Saltiga???

[jason]

Wat is the max drag for Daiwa Saltiga Z30 and Z40????



Cheers
Jason

[edylie]

Some said 15 kgs and it takes some time for the drag to set in.
Initially you might get like 8kgs or so

Cheers,
Edy

[stickbom!]

Guess it peaks at 15kg when the drags get sticky and jerky Hey Jason, a gloved thumb (or two) will provide quite a lot of stopping power...

[physlo]

Jason, you don't need 15kgs drag to stop a Ah Seng lah...lol.

Was told by FB that it was 10kgs max.

[MarkR]

It's 10kg dude for SA40/Z40 and Z30...Isihidais are capable of more. Beware, some tackle shops will say 20kg, 15kg...etc etc

[lawrenbang]

Hi kakis,
Confirmed spec @ 10kgs and Ishidai @ 15kgs.
Cheers,

[DaFrogman]

Recently, I had the opportunity to test the stock drags on a Z40. They only maxed out at 7.5kg on my scale (could be my scale...). To be fair, the upgrade to Carbontex drags still gave the same result in terms of max drag. Weird, but haven;t figured it out yet.

Hehehehehehe.... in an ideal world, manufacturers would specify their drag ratings by saying things like; "Max Drag = 10kg, but its a bit jerky at this point and you gotta warm things up first etc" or "Well, if you take out a pair of pliers and use them on the drag knob, you should be able to squeeze out 12kg of drag, good luck"...

Saimee

[jason]

Kinda of disappointed to hear that Z40 has only 10kg drag.....

[stickbom!]

Hey Jason, stand up anglers catch big marlin with their game reels at 13lbs+ of drag at strike and probably around 20lbs at sunset on 50lb tackle... our very own Makaira has achieved some pretty decent catches on 30lb stand up gear... dun be too overwhelmed by the max drag thing buddy

[mark]

owned!!!

[rain]

Originally Posted by stickbom!

Hey Jason, stand up anglers catch big marlin with their game reels at 13lbs+ of drag at strike and probably around 20lbs at sunset on 50lb tackle... our very own Makaira has achieved some pretty decent catches on 30lb stand up gear... dun be too overwhelmed by the max drag thing buddy

wholly agreed with stickbom,

not really fancy too stubborn strong drag,

sometimes you have to take into the consideration of the anglers and the reels mechnical contruction as well.

I feel that one would have to fish with what he/she is comfortable with, not the "strongest" or "best" of all.

[mattv]

I installed a washer on the main shaft directly under the star drag wheel of my Saltiga SA30 and the drag improved by a considerable amount. The washer must have an OD that clears the side plate as it will be forced down the main shaft inside the reel when tightening the star drag. I don't see why this shouldn't work on the "Z" series as well.

It also takes less turns of the star drag wheel to adjust the drag with this additional washer installed.

My reel also has the Carbontex washers installed. Like Saimee I found it didn't increase the drag by itself - it did make it smoother though.

[sodick]

hi jason, i am still new to fishing, but last saturday, my friend manage to catch a sailfish about 30kg using z30 at rompin, so i think a 10kg drag should be sufficient unless you aiming for a bigger.

[mattv]

Further to my post above about installing an additional metal washer etc. I tested my SA30 tonight and it just made 12 kgs straight from the reel.

I'm thinking that a Z30/40 might get about 15kgs after adding the extra washer and Carbontex drag washers.

I need at least 12 kgs of drag for jigging for Kingfish here in NZ as they invariably head straight for the reef below once hooked. Even 12 kgs is not enough if I'm into a really good sized Kingie. I was spooled recently by a large Kingie that I couldn't stop with reel with 13 kgs of drag at sunset.

[jason]

Hi guys

Due to the insuffient drag that it can only offered.....I let go to one of fren ...
Nice and well enginered reel but the turn off part was the drag.....
If they can upgraded the drag to at least 15kgs, I will be the first one to grab one....


Cheers
Jason

[Sui Generis]

Hey Jason,

Have you tried fishing 15kgs drag before..? If you have, have you been using such setting very often?

I personally think that 10kgs of drag is pretty high already..

Many people have landed big fish (30kgs and above) with drags set at 10kgs and below. After having been fortunate enough to land a 70lb GT once, I tested my drag with a scale after the fight, and it read only 6kgs..

I like Mikey's point of using a gloved hand to increase the drag, cos i do that pretty much myself too.

hmm... a gloved hand seems to be able to do many things for anglers and nurses...

[physlo]

Originally Posted by jason

Hi guys

Due to the insuffient drag that it can only offered.....I let go to one of fren ...
Nice and well enginered reel but the turn off part was the drag.....
If they can upgraded the drag to at least 15kgs, I will be the first one to grab one....


Cheers
Jason

Eh...that big thumb can't fit your nose but can be use to apply additional pressure on the spool of the Z30...lol

My gain....your loss.

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by sodick

hi jason, i am still new to fishing, but last saturday, my friend manage to catch a sailfish about 30kg using z30 at rompin, so i think a 10kg drag should be sufficient unless you aiming for a bigger.

Hi Sodick,

10-12 lbs of drag on 30lb line is more than sufficient to handle most sails in Rompin ..... enuff for some sporting fun & the angler should be able to bring the fish in without an extended fight for a healthy release.

Best regards,
Makaira

[jason]

Originally Posted by Sui Generis

Hey Jason,

Have you tried fishing 15kgs drag before..? If you have, have you been using such setting very often?

I personally think that 10kgs of drag is pretty high already..

Many people have landed big fish (30kgs and above) with drags set at 10kgs and below. After having been fortunate enough to land a 70lb GT once, I tested my drag with a scale after the fight, and it read only 6kgs..

I like Mikey's point of using a gloved hand to increase the drag, cos i do that pretty much myself too.

hmm... a gloved hand seems to be able to do many things for anglers and nurses...

Hi bro

Its rated 10kgs on paper...but when I test, cannot even reach 5kg....
Some say need to warm up , truth enough, after fishing once or twice the drag start to rough up and I almost rated it at the most 6-7kgs....

Carbontex drags wont increase your drag but will give a smooth drag under heavy drag settings....

I don dare to say I can stand 15kgs of drag but I am confident when I need it , it will there for me ......Sometimes U juz need that extra bit of drag when U hit some thing big enough.....Better be prepared than curse and swear after the trip.....

I don want to lose my fingers because I have better options for them...
Had a bad experience of tore gloves and blister thumb during of the trips.....


Cheers
Jason

[jason]

Originally Posted by physlo

Eh...that big thumb can't fit your nose but can be use to apply additional pressure on the spool of the Z30...lol

My gain....your loss.

Hi bro

Take good care of this baby ......
Got ang kuey with it before ok...don play play....!!!!!


Cheers
Jason

[Makaira]

Basically, anglers look for reels that are capable of very high "max" drag because of the species they are targetting. High drag is sometimes essential to prevent the fish from cutting off at the reef or wreck on their initial burst as mentioned by mattv. Having said that, please bear in mind that fishing drag settings of 10kg & above can be hazardous to the life & health of anglers of all experience levels

[mattv]

Yes, I agree with Makaira, drag over 10 kg is to be avoided if possible; 15kg of drag is enough to easily pull you over and is no laughing matter. There has been some nasty accidents and no doubt fatalities from lone anglers being pulled off boats and especially rocks. Always have somebody ready to grab your belt if it's necessary to use such high drag pressure.

[mattv]

I forgot to add that in my experience, fishing off rocks especially, using a gloved hand to stop powerful fish is not pratical. I totally agree with Jason on this point and have burnt my fingers because the glove has worn through in short order without me knowing it. It's also dangerous and could result in badly cut fingers when using braid. You have enough things to worry about without having to watch exactly where your fingers are on the spool when fighting a strong fish.

[Akudou]

So, the stated 15kg on the ishidai is not accurate? Plan to get one cos the price is almost the same as the oj4k and oj5k. If the drag is 15 kg, then i dont mind getting it. Anyone have more info on it? Its a dissapointment if i get the ishidai is similar in price of the OJ but drag is not the same as the OJ.

[shineshy]

would all seniors here conquer

"...Carbontex drags wont increase your drag but will give a smooth drag under heavy drag settings...."

wat if penn HT100 is use ?