What happens to YellowFin Tuna >200lbs?

[Makaira]

Into cans ... that's what

http://www.allcoastsportfishing.com/...ode=full&page=

[stickbom!]

Wah laoz... if I was there sure borrow one to take photo :P Dangle my most exotic Japanese popper/jig on the fish's mouth and pose for a priceless Kodak moment. :P

[Dynaway]

Originally Posted by stickbom!

Wah laoz... if I was there sure borrow one to take photo :P Dangle my most exotic Japanese popper/jig on the fish's mouth and pose for a priceless Kodak moment. :P

wahaha...wat u can do is use ur popper n hook the tuna can n tell ppl it used to be a 200lb tuna.... LOL

[ghaniyusoff]

awsome size.......

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by ghaniyusoff

awsome size.......

Hi ghaniyusoff,

Yes indeed.

What makes it even more awsome is that these fishes were mostly landed from an anchored boat!!!! Occasionally, some charters may lower a skiff to chase the fish or use a backup rig if the reel is getting spooled. 130 or 200# spectra with up to 200# mono topshot and hooks tied directly to the mono is the order of the day. Real brutal style of fishing to say the least. I seriously wonder how those super expensive Japanese fishing rods that lifts however many kilos of water or lead filled buckets or oil drums; the Stellas & Saltigas with their proclaimed 20kg drags & what nots would stand up to fish of this size in that fishing environment.

Best regards,
Makaira

[octopus]

Think I will put a jig on it's mouth and get an Avet SX beside. Took a picture and send to Avetreels.com then my face will appear on the cover page

Imagine what kind of tackle can pass these test... Japanese's or American's stuff?

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by octopus

Think I will put a jig on it's mouth and get an Avet SX beside. Took a picture and send to Avetreels.com then my face will appear on the cover page

Imagine what kind of tackle can pass these test... Japanese's or American's stuff?

Hi Octopus,

This is what they call "cow" fishing. The nickname for YellowFin Tuna over the 200lb mark are called cows in long range lingo.

I believe the rods used in such warfare are a mix of mostly Calstars & Seekers. As for the reels, many use 2 speed 50# class sized reels & up like the Tiagra, Penn International (blueprinted), Accurate and of late Avets seems to be making an impact.

From what I can gather, the trend nowadays is moving away from using harness & gimbal belts because it inhibits angler mobility on the long range boats. Fish of this size can run circles round the boat before coming to the gaff. Having to clip & unclip the gear in & out of the harness is a real hassle when the rod needs to go under the anchor rope, over or under other anglers' rod & line along the rail. Method of choice now is what they call "using the rail". This means positioning the forgrip of the rod on the boat's wooden railing, rod butt underarm and squatting down, then pump away taking in line on the downstroke. Pretty interesting technique from what I've seen on the long range videos. Go visit the Allcoast website & you can read about the gear & techniques involved in that fishery.


http://www.allcoastsportfishing.com/forum/dcboard.php


Best regards,
Makaira

[fishguy360]

Originally Posted by Makaira

Method of choice now is what they call "using the rail". This means positioning the forgrip of the rod on the boat's wooden railing, rod butt underarm and squatting down, then pump away taking in line on the downstroke.

Really? sounds like a tiring position, fighting a fish in the squatting position.. but I do agree that using the rail of the boat does help to support, then again with the butt at the underarm., I reckon it is going to hurt when you fighting for long period of time...

Would really love to see how angler fight in "using the rail" position.

Cheers
Terence

[edylie]

Resting the rod against the rail is a very good technique. Personally i have tried when fighting the 32kgs amberjack in Israel.

The force from the fish will be channelled into the railing and helps the angler to converse energy.

Cheers,
Edy

[Makaira]

[quote="fishguy360"]

Originally Posted by Makaira

Really? sounds like a tiring position, fighting a fish in the squatting position.. but I do agree that using the rail of the boat does help to support, then again with the butt at the underarm., I reckon it is going to hurt when you fighting for long period of time...Would really love to see how angler fight in "using the rail" position.

Hi T,

The rod is treated as a lever, which is what it basically is. The point where the rod touches the rail is the fulcrum point, in place of your hand in normal circumstances, or the harness lugs when it is used. The rod butt under the arm is the lever point. The left hand holds on the the reel with the palm on the top of the reel to stop it from rocking side to side, right hand winds like hell Not that bad actually because most of the strain is taken off your back. One thing to remember is those boats have very high freeboard so you are not actually squatting down like a "pang sai" position Will try to find a photo from the net to illustrate what I mean.

In such situations, whether using the rail or in a harness setup, the reel is most likely in low gear and EVERY inch of line gained counts. So short stroking is the name of the game. Short stroking is a technique all anglers should learn when battling a deep sounding biggie instead of always trying to make long strokes to gain more line. If an angler keeps doing the latter & on high drag setting, the fish will kill you before you even see colour

Best regards,
Makaira

[stickbom!]

Originally Posted by Makaira

Hi Octopus,

This is what they call "cow" fishing. The nickname for YellowFin Tuna over the 200lb mark are called cows in long range lingo.

I believe the rods used in such warfare are a mix of mostly Calstars & Seekers. As for the reels, many use 2 speed 50# class sized reels & up like the Tiagra, Penn International (blueprinted), Accurate and of late Avets seems to be making an impact.

From what I can gather, the trend nowadays is moving away from using harness & gimbal belts because it inhibits angler mobility on the long range boats. Fish of this size can run circles round the boat before coming to the gaff. Having to clip & unclip the gear in & out of the harness is a real hassle when the rod needs to go under the anchor rope, over or under other anglers' rod & line along the rail. Method of choice now is what they call "using the rail". This means positioning the forgrip of the rod on the boat's wooden railing, rod butt underarm and squatting down, then pump away taking in line on the downstroke. Pretty interesting technique from what I've seen on the long range videos. Go visit the Allcoast website & you can read about the gear & techniques involved in that fishery.


http://www.allcoastsportfishing.com/forum/dcboard.php


Best regards,
Makaira

SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKER

[fishguy360]

Originally Posted by Makaira

Hi T,

The rod is treated as a lever, which is what it basically is. The point where the rod touches the rail is the fulcrum point, in place of your hand in normal circumstances, or the harness lugs when it is used. The rod butt under the arm is the lever point. The left hand holds on the the reel with the palm on the top of the reel to stop it from rocking side to side, right hand winds like hell Not that bad actually because most of the strain is taken off your back. One thing to remember is those boats have very high freeboard so you are not actually squatting down like a "pang sai" position Will try to find a photo from the net to illustrate what I mean.

In such situations, whether using the rail or in a harness setup, the reel is most likely in low gear and EVERY inch of line gained counts. So short stroking is the name of the game. Short stroking is a technique all anglers should learn when battling a deep sounding biggie instead of always trying to make long strokes to gain more line. If an angler keeps doing the latter & on high drag setting, the fish will kill you before you even see colour

Best regards,
Makaira

Hi Mak,
thks for the detailed description of the position, I have a much clearer visual now. Will be really nice to see the "pang sai" position if you have the pic.

i think if I fish in that position, sure Lau Sai!
ahahhahahahahaha!!

T