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This is a discussion on Two hook Rig within the General Chat forums, part of the After Hours category; Hi guys, how do u all set up ur 2 hook rig for bottom bashing ?. Below is the way i ...
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My Mood: Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Two hook Rig Hi guys, how do u all set up ur 2 hook rig for bottom bashing ?. Below is the way i did it, but was told, it would be better not to set line passing thur the hook "eye" so as to not stress the line during impact from fishes.. hmm, u guys got better idea or Hook Knot Tying Illustration fro a better 2 hook rig ???? |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 ![]() ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Hi SS, In theory, you're not supposed thread the leader through the hook eye if the eye is straight. A lot of old timers will tell you this. Thread the leader through the hook eye only if the eye is bent at an angle. cheers |
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
There is one exception to the rule though; and that is for circle hooks. For circle hooks to work more effectively, the leader should go through the eye towards the hook point, as shown in shineshy's illustration E. However, I only go through the eye of the circle hook when I am using leader that is at least 50lbs breaking strength; and hard as opposed to limp / soft leader material. Otherwise I simply use the uniknot. In the past, when I happen to use lighter & soft leader material, I have experienced breaks right at the point of contact / pressure where the leader meets the hook eye. Best regards, Makaira Last edited by Makaira : 01-05-2007 at 07:44 PM. | |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 ![]() ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
Yes, spot on as usual. These days I snell my circle hooks too and make sure the leader passes though the hook eye in the direction SS has in his illustrations- this will enable the circle hook to turn properly and enable the point to dig in. I have stopped using the Rapala knot to form a free-swinging loop for circles as taught to me by Eric Lim in Rompin because I believe the standard snell is a stronger connection. Tight lines, Mark Last edited by MarkR : 01-05-2007 at 10:25 PM. | |
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
Last edited by Makaira : 02-05-2007 at 12:56 PM. | |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
One thing to note is also the quality of the hooks used . the finish in those cheaper hooks tends to be poorer..thus when going thru the "eye" , e leader gets tends to get some rough "treatment". Some abrasion will occurred during the loop thru. | |
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
Hi SS, You maybe doing this already, but the safest way is to pull the leader slowly through the eye AFTER tying the snell. The same applies to hooks with the bent eye as well. This will prevent fraying the entire length of the leader if there is a burr in the hook eye. As with tying all knots, make sure you wet the snell well before drawing it. For circles, ensure that the point where the leader extends from the knot is on the backside of the hook shank so the leader goes through the eye smoothly and not at a twisted angle. I hope you know what I mean. Best regards, Makaira | |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 ![]() ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Yo Mak, Have you tried a gang hook rig with 2 circle hooks? SS, Just an observation that the snell you use has two overlapping strands of mono leader at the hook eye. I generally try to avoid knots like these for fear of the overlapped segment cutting into itself. Just like a poorly tied trilene knot where the two leader loops around the hook eye overlap or cross...sure point of failure...I may be just paranoid though cheers |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
really ah..oh oh..u guys got Illustration to show how u all do it.. My "ang Mo" not very gd lar.. :P | |
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Rep Power: 5 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Hi Mark, I have not nor do I think I will. Circles only work effectively when the curved point is totally exposed & that nothing inhibits point from "catching" so it penetrates all the way through for a solid hook up at the corner of the fish's mouth. As such, ganging circle hooks for use with bait leaves too much to chance of something going wrong, so I will not risk it. The whole point of using a circle for bottom bashing, for me at least, is so that there is less chance of gut hooking; and it ain't because I'm a c&r advocate. I hate it when I have to use pliers to pull normal hooks out of a fish. Takes too much time during a hot bite and I end up losing a lot of hooks because I end up simply snipping the leader & tie on a new hook if the leader is still long enough. Don't forget, when it comes to bottom bashing ..... I'm simply a bait soaking meat hunting ah lau you know. Best regards, Makaira |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig i did another knot for e 2 hook rigs. is actually a uni knot 1st pic --> Uni knot 2nd pic --> "modified uni knot with the main line NOT going thru the "eye" of the hook any comments on the knot strength for a 2 hook rig ? Thanks |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 0 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig how about trying this type of ganged hooks? can use up to 3 or more hooks and easier to tie, just need to buy the hooks with eye that can be bend open and back after slotting in another one. seems stronger too.. Ganged Hook Size 4/0 Box of 100 |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig u using tat? I tot the hooks might give away..no offence. I prefer owner hooks or gamakatsu.. I thinking of trying out the following too.. but some says fishes are sensitive to wire leh..Anyone using for night bottom bashing ? |
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| Senior Member | Re: Two hook Rig Yeah, was wondering about the fishes being sensitive to wires,y is that? Is it because of the smell on them wires?When using wire on a jig,will it affect the bite rate too? Cos if we don use wires,them toothy critters(macks,barracudas)will have a jolly good time on our monos! Pardon me if my queries are out from this topic Rgds, Din |
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My Mood: Rep Power: 0 ![]() | Re: Two hook Rig Quote:
Pardon my ignorance, Whats the reason that the 2nd pic --> "modified uni knot with the main line NOT going thru the "eye" of the hook? | |
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