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A Question for Braided Line Experts
This is a discussion on A Question for Braided Line Experts within the General Chat forums, part of the After Hours category; Hi all, may i know the performance of P-Line Spectrex IV compared to YGK Power Hunter at the same ...
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20-03-2006, 09:51 AM
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Rep Power: 4  | A Question for Braided Line Experts Hi all, may i know the performance of P-Line Spectrex IV compared to YGK Power Hunter at the same PE in terms of strength. The reason is i will be going to load a large amount of line into my Penn 50vsw for ultra deep bottom fishing without any backing  So before i do that, I would like to seek some professional advice  Thanks |
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20-03-2006, 09:23 PM
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My Mood:  Rep Power: 6  | I'm no expert but I think it's going to cost a BOMB filling up a 6/O game reel with braid. With the use of braid, you can easily get away with a 4/O game reel and still have enough line for that fish to swim from SG to Batam :P (Just trying to get the message across) My Japanese buddies load their big game reels with PE30 for cranking big grouper/amberjack (Not the type you find in Tanjung Pinang :P )/Yellowtail Kingfish/Dogtooth from deepwater with their rods clamped to the side of the boat. Don't ask me why they do that cos I've got no friggin idea bro. Mind telling us what you intend to do with a 6/OW filled with braid  and what poundage you're thinking of using Personally I think PE is thicker and has better abrasion resistance than normal braids. The 2 brands you mentioned are very good lines so it's pretty much up to you to decide Here's the website for "ALLIGATOR". These are the rods which my friends clamp to the side of their boats when cranking fish up from deepwater :P http://www.alligator-usa.com/ http://www.alligator.jp/info/info.html |
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21-03-2006, 12:46 PM
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My Mood:  Rep Power: 6 | Whoops...looks like my christmas list just got longer  |
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21-03-2006, 06:22 PM
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Either the fish die or i die.. :P :P :P kinda concept. But the truth is i really don't know what lies beneath the rig floor  Thanks and cheers for advice | |
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21-03-2006, 07:10 PM
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 | Bro when it comes to abrasion resistance, nothing beats mono  Tie a long 400lb leader at the business end and see what you manage to winch up |
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21-03-2006, 07:17 PM
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My Mood:  Rep Power: 4 | or maybe a 100m of 200lbs mono as topshot to stand a better chances against abrasion? BTW, mind telling us where would you be fishing? onboard oil rigs? East Malaysia? cheers Mark |
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21-03-2006, 07:22 PM
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Not an expert, but here's my take based on your needs. If you are looking at 200lb braided, perhaps you can look at the hollow Jerry Brown spectra line. I think you may be able to find some ex-stock at Angler's Outfitter. Give them a call to see if they still have it in stock & how much it costs Tel: 62947567 The reason for suggesting hollow spectra is that in the event you get cut-off, you can add line by splicing a loop & do a loop-to-loop connection to add on more braided to top up the spool. No need to tie a bimini on both ends & one less knot failure to happen. If you prefer, you can also splice mono directly into the hollow spectra. IMHO, comparing braided to mono, it will lose hands down to mono in the abrasion resistance department, even the 200# braided. My suggestion is load 600-700yds of JB 200# hollow, splice in & top up the rest of the capacity with about 50-80yds of 130# sufix Tritanium for the working end of the line. This will probably save you a lot of money in the long run. If you are really dropping off from the top of the rig rather than from work boats, I think you will go poor reloading braided lines because of cut offs from the rig legs & cables  Fishing at oils rigs, I don't really think you need the sensitivity of full braids or need to reach the bottom to catch fish. The jig will probably get whacked on the way down and you WILL know you have a fish on!!!  Just my 2 cents. Best regards, Makaira | |
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22-03-2006, 01:36 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | Thanks Stickbom, will add a few hundred metres of Top-Shot and see what happens. Mark, I will be at Myamar Sector Block A-1. Will be fishing onboard a semi-submersible. Thanks Makaira But honestly i don't know how to make that splice.  But definitely will add 200 to 300 lb topshot to compensate.Thanks bros for your valuable feedback. |
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22-03-2006, 01:58 PM
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23-03-2006, 02:10 PM
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23-03-2006, 04:11 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | Arowana...Hee hee just as I thought.If d Sup/Company man fishes than it should be no problem.Good on you and have fun!!!Just make sure them fishes dont wrap itself on the legs of d semi sub....hee hee ,Cheers bubba!! 
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23-03-2006, 09:40 PM
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Theres a saying dude.. When the cats away... the mice comes out to play.... sounds firmiliar???? Slick | |
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28-03-2006, 10:07 PM
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 | Bro... check this out man A 80W game reel filled with PE... I think the cost of his line can buy another Tiagra 50WLRS |
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28-03-2006, 11:48 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | FAR OUT!! damn thick PE line as well.......PE12 or 15??? |
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29-03-2006, 11:26 AM
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 | Probably #30 bro. My friends uses Ultra Dyneema (YGK) and they're loading up to PE30 |
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29-03-2006, 03:44 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | Wah Bro Stickbom, this is no joke. By the way, is a Penn 30 vsw sufficient to fish in the whole south east asia? Fully loaded with braid and use only for bottom?By the way.......the tiagra 80 is used for wat type of fishing? |
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29-03-2006, 09:04 PM
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My Mood: Rep Power: 6 | Ahem... PAGING FOR TROLLING & BLUEWATER GURU MAKAIRA Please enlighten Mr Arowana on the uses of a gold plated Milo Tin  Bro sure you wanna lug a 10lb bowling ball all over S.E.A Get a Saltiga 40 or Jigger 5000 or Torsa XL or Penn Baja Special enough liao lar... if the fish proves too big for the rod and reel just use the crane on the oil rig lar SURE UPZ one  |
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29-03-2006, 11:51 PM
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Rep Power: 5 | Errrrrrrrrrrmmmmm .......... Milo tin arh ...... for those old enough to remember ... the Milo jingle goes like this ..... It's marvellous what Milo ... can do for you!! |
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30-03-2006, 12:42 AM
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My Mood:  Rep Power: 5 | Use that Tiagra good...... Have enough line for the Barracuto to play....... Can also help to retrive anchors....... Cheers Jason
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30-03-2006, 10:45 AM
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31-03-2006, 01:14 AM
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Rep Power: 4 | Ok Makaira and bros.... I was wondering if the 30 series is actually sufficient for mainly BOTTOM fishing in and around South East Asia (Places like lucornia, spratlys, maldives and etc) loaded with pe/braid lines? Kam Sia in advance |
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31-03-2006, 02:11 AM
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My Mood: Rep Power: 5 | I have use TLD 30 II in lousia before.......Still ok leh..... But my fren use TLD 50II kena stripped by Barracuto.... Ask super sky...hahahahhaha!!!!
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31-03-2006, 08:29 AM
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31-03-2006, 10:37 AM
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Rep Power: 4 | Hi Physlo, My main targets are those Kao Tun, ThreadFin Salmon Brother (Mian fish), Giant Seng, Sharks of whatever species, Giant stingray..... How you think.........can bo???Seriously.........if a 30series is sufficient, why many people go for the 50 series?? Is it a 50 series reel has a better re-sale market value than a 30 series and coz of this, anglers juz go with a 50 series any part in S.E.A Cheers bros |
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31-03-2006, 10:43 AM
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