Looking for boatman who can take me local wreck fishing

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Any leads/tip offs would be much appreciated

[MarkR]

Ah Suay will fish Mano but only on the slackest of tides I gather...

[rolexking]

i'll be meeting John tomolo, for some discussion for my up-coming trip with him. In fact, we have been bugging him to take my frens and I for local trip.
We dun mind paying abit more than standard rates, as he mentioned that his cost might be abit higher than other (normal rate 300-350 / nite)
I’ll update on the outcome of the discussion. Let me know if anyone is interested.
Btw, we are a bunch of novices…

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RolexKing, I have 5-6 pax here who are keen to fish wrecks. Just let me know the details/dates once you have it. Thanks!

[Makaira]

Mikey ........... Nelayana does local trips that can include local wrecks as one of the spots.

[rolexking]

Mikey ........... Nelayana does local trips that can include local wrecks as one of the spots.

yup, katong/marina parade,.... very good spot.
went for a trip with some old birds... end result, 2 gaos, one 7kg and one 13kg. before dawn hit one more jew fish, 14kg!!
nela rocks... but now hard to book..

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Hi Mak/Rolexking, I've contacted Tiger William this afternoon and he's offered me a Friday night trip on Sept 14. Should be confirming with him tomorrow

[Makaira]

Hi Mak/Rolexking, I've contacted Tiger William this afternoon and he's offered me a Friday night trip on Sept 14. Should be confirming with him tomorrow

Yo Mikey ........ according to the tidal streams chart for Sept, just be aware that for the14th, if you fish the Marine Parade wreck, you run a high chance of very weak to dead current.

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Oh no... Luckily he gave me a few other dates... left them in my office though... will check what are the other options I have. Thank goodness there's ppl here to guide green horns like me... otherwise its going to be a quiet night on a big comfortable boat overlooking the city

[rolexking]

Yo Mikey ........ according to the tidal streams chart for Sept, just be aware that for the14th, if you fish the Marine Parade wreck, you run a high chance of very weak to dead current.

errr... tot i heard that weak or dead current is okie for wreck fishin?
me a newbie too...

[Makaira]

errr... tot i heard that weak or dead current is okie for wreck fishin?
me a newbie too...

Hi rolexking,

Imho, the misconception some anglers have is that to fish a wreck effectively, they have to anchor as close to the structure as possible. While this may hold true in some cases, it is generally not true for most wrecks. Having said that, the weaker the current, the closer you have to anchor to the wreck to be in the strike zone. Perhaps that is why some people prefer weak to dead current situations when fishing wrecks because it is easier to anchor close to the wreck.

One should bear in mind that when wreck fishing, or any kind of structure for that matter, be it a coral patch, rocks or a wreck, the "strike zone" is dynamic & not static. It will expand or contract according to the current strength & sometimes even directionality of the flow plays a part.

When we go wreck fishing, the rule-of-thumb is the stronger the current, the further away we anchor from the wreck. That is because fishes generally are more active & venture further away from the structure to feed i.e. the strike zone expands. When anchored further away from the wreck, anglers also have the option of adjusting the sizes of their sinkers according to where they want their baits to be presented i.e. lighter sinker to fish closer to the wreck & heavier sinkers to fish away from the structure.

Anchoring close to the wreck is also a real pain in the you-know-where because you will end up losing a very high percentage of your catch through cut-offs, or it will be sangkut city!!! In weak or dead current situations, it will be worse because the boat is at the mercy of the wind & the waves, swinging left & right constantly snagging the hook / rangong / leader & even the mainline if the structure is very high.

Opinions differ of course.


Best regards,
Makaira

[rolexking]

Hi rolexking,

Imho, the misconception some anglers have is that to fish a wreck effectively, they have to anchor as close to the structure as possible. While this may hold true in some cases, it is generally not true for most wrecks. Having said that, the weaker the current, the closer you have to anchor to the wreck to be in the strike zone. Perhaps that is why some people prefer weak to dead current situations when fishing wrecks because it is easier to anchor close to the wreck.

One should bear in mind that when wreck fishing, or any kind of structure for that matter, be it a coral patch, rocks or a wreck, the "strike zone" is dynamic & not static. It will expand or contract according to the current strength & sometimes even directionality of the flow plays a part.

When we go wreck fishing, the rule-of-thumb is the stronger the current, the further away we anchor from the wreck. That is because fishes generally are more active & venture further away from the structure to feed i.e. the strike zone expands. When anchored further away from the wreck, anglers also have the option of adjusting the sizes of their sinkers according to where they want their baits to be presented i.e. lighter sinker to fish closer to the wreck & heavier sinkers to fish away from the structure.

Anchoring close to the wreck is also a real pain in the you-know-where because you will end up losing a very high percentage of your catch through cut-offs, or it will be sangkut city!!! In weak or dead current situations, it will be worse because the boat is at the mercy of the wind & the waves, swinging left & right constantly snagging the hook / rangong / leader & even the mainline if the structure is very high.

Opinions differ of course.


Best regards,
Makaira

thanks for the pointers.

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I think fishes are a little less active during no current periods right?

[Makaira]

I think fishes are a little less active during no current periods right?

That is generally true. However, at times, it depends on the location. For those who have fished Rompin, there is practically zero current any time of the day or night, but the fishes still feed. I have fished several spots, local & overseas, where fishes go on a feeding frenzy during the neap tide periods. Anyway, if given a choice, my preference is to fish when there is a current.

[rolexking]

jus got back after meetin john.
he's not so much into local, however he'll still do it if we really want to.
as i'll be goin for reservist soon, most of his available dates crushes into my in-camp period. thus, no go for me....
nothin's firm now. my frens still thinkin of alternative. anyway, i thin it's good to share and learn. at least now i have a more info on wreck fishin.
if need fellows to fill up slots, please let me know.
will be keen if i or my frens can make it.

[Makaira]

Hi rolexking,

Is the John you are referring to John Hendricks? If it is, he is the GURU of Mano & Enfield. John and a handful of old timers fished those deepwater wrecks on wooden sampans using heavy handline in close to 200 feet of water way back when the mulloways were aplenty.

Best regards,
Makaira

[rolexking]

Hi rolexking,

Is the John you are referring to John Hendricks? If it is, he is the GURU of Mano & Enfield. John and a handful of old timers fished those deepwater wrecks on wooden sampans using heavy handline in close to 200 feet of water way back when the mulloways were aplenty.

Best regards,
Makaira

yup he's the same guy we are talkin about.He’s very help and kind, I must say.It’s a pity that he’s not getting as much trip as other boatman. And I’m trying to get some more trips with him.
That’s also one of the reason that I’m trying to get him to do local trip or short trip. I’ve a trip with him on the 2nd – 4th November, most likely to SCS.
Before this trip, I hope to be able to get him for a local wreck or short trip.
Have to ask my frens on their availability and schedule.
He mentioned that he have intention to sell off his boat, if the offer is rite.
So guys, if anyone wanna engage him, please do so fast. You can PM me, I can make the necessary arrangement for you.
Anyway, I’m not an organizer, no profiteering here…
Thanks,
Rolex

[Daiwa_Siao]

wah...clement...since when you become rolexking?...LOL..me Penn from FK.

hehe...dying to wet your lines izzit? dun worry too much...chk my reply to you at FK pm. local trip will be better if you look for other smaller boat. sep/oct local wreck should have some surprises. look for boat from keppel/penjuru...those area these boats go have potential for good results.