Heavy sinkers

[gubble80]

Hi guys does anyone knows which tackle shop sells size 35j to 40j sinkers?
The heaviest i can find is size 20j which is about 1kg..

[MarkR]

Gubble80 dude,

Don't think they sell J35s and 40s. The biggest J series I have seen is J20.

I have some SC65 (approx 1.8kg) and SC45 sinkers can try Gina, Poh Huat or Siow Chiang for these. Poh Huat's prices kind steep though. Riverland has some pear-shaped 1kg and 1.5kg sinkers.

Hope it helps

[gubble80]

thanks mark for the fast reply.. am looking for sinkers around 2 to 2.5kg.. hopefully someone in this forum who DIY sinkers of this weight by themself is willing to sell me some..

[shineshy]

yo bro..where u go fishing...need so heavy sinkers ah ? ..care to share

[gubble80]

yo pal.. usually me and my good frens of 5 pax do offshore at local southern waters or tanjung pinang.. u wana join us? we are all very friendly and not picky fellows hehe..

[shineshy]

Originally Posted by gubble80

yo pal.. usually me and my good frens of 5 pax do offshore at local southern waters or tanjung pinang.. u wana join us? we are all very friendly and not picky fellows hehe..

southern island ... no wonder. :P mind if i ask which boatman u guys always goes with ?

with such "heavy duty" weight load..wat setup are u using..

[gubble80]

for southern usually is ah cheng which most of u guys already familiar with..
for size 20j and below i'll use my PE6 jigwrex with Saltist 30T and for above 20j i'll use my calstar 755 with Tiburon SST8..

[MarkR]

Gubble80 dude,

The SST8 ain't no winch...I had one of these before and found that it lacks winching power for big sinkers...think the Saltist would be a better option.

[gubble80]

ehh how come bro?? gear ratio is 4.9 for saltist (20j quite sweat liao) and lower gear for SST8 is 2.8.. i tried the SST8 and was able to crank up 2 X 20j sinkers quite easily leh..

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by gubble80

ehh how come bro?? gear ratio is 4.9 for saltist (20j quite sweat liao) and lower gear for SST8 is 2.8.. i tried the SST8 and was able to crank up 2 X 20j sinkers quite easily leh..

Hi G80,

I believe MarkR was referring to cranking using the high gear of the SST8 which is 5.9:1 if I am not mistaken. Comparing apples to apples i.e. the 5.9 of the SST vs 4.9 of the Saltist, I am pretty sure the Saltist's gear & handle design will provide more cranking power than the Tiburon. Having said that, using the 2.8:1 gear ratio of the SST will most certainly make it a winch

Best regards,
Makaira

[gubble80]

oh i see.. im still a beginner when comes to bottom fishing, just started to move to more heavier setup cos i feel very helpless and fed up last time whenever the current is very strong and i cant fish at all.. recently i found that usually strong current produces bigger fishes.. makes sense haha.. pls guide me and jio me go fishing if possible..

[arowana]

Pm me if u still require sinkers above 2kg....i have self made them.

[gubble80]

arowana.. PMed u..

[MarkR]

Gubble80 dude,

Mak's right. I was referring to the high gear ratio (5.9:1)...anyway you'd have to preset the smart shift mechanism to switch at a very low line tension to get the low gears to work while cranking heavy sinkers...so in effect you'd be fishing with a 2.8:1 gear ratio all the time!

Cheers

[gubble80]

yup when fishing with such heavy sinkers im actually using 2.8 all/most of the time.. no choice, other 2 speed reels seem to be very big and heavy.. the thing i love abt this reel is that it is built like a tank..

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by gubble80

yup when fishing with such heavy sinkers im actually using 2.8 all/most of the time.. no choice, other 2 speed reels seem to be very big and heavy.. the thing i love abt this reel is that it is built like a tank..

There are actually 2 other options in the market these days, namely Avet & the new line of 2 speed Accurate Boss. The Tibs are built like tanks though.

[DaFrogman]

G80 dude,

I still use an SST12 that runs the same ratios as your 8.... I find that its a good but heavy reel for my applications. How deep is the water you are going to use those 2kg sinkers on?.... Also what sized line do you have loaded on the SST8?.

My SST12 now runs only 50lb mono for a totally different reason and application...

Saimee

[gubble80]

hi frogman, mostly will be fishing in about 40 to 90 meters water..
i loaded my SST8 with 80 braided berkley big game with 50yards mono top shot.. i think still can load in some more..

wat application are u using urs for? trolling??

[DaFrogman]

I used to run 65 & 80lb braid on my SST, the reason I switched to mono is bcos the SST is now my backup reel when the barracouta here decide to keep cutting off our braided mainlines.... I have lost over 1000m of braid from various reels in the last 10 months or so. The barracouta don't seem to bother mono lines though, so thats the reason I run 50lb Sufix Xcelon on my SST.

I mainly bottom fish in 70-200m of water. The SST is actually a great mono reel, since it allows you to reel in the slack and stretch of the mono quickly in high gear and then shifts to low gear for the grinding part of the fight. I am also running a different drag cam in my SST.... it gives more drag quicker than the stock cam...but thats another story for another time.

Take care of your SST drag plate and the flange bearing that resides under it. Both are susceptible to corrosion and spares are few and far between. I used Cals grease on my carbon fibre drag washer and that has eliminated the drag plate corrosion issue and also made the drags ultra smooth.

Regards,

Saimee

[Makaira]

Originally Posted by gubble80

hi frogman, mostly will be fishing in about 40 to 90 meters water..
i loaded my SST8 with 80 braided berkley big game with 50yards mono top shot.. i think still can load in some more..

wat application are u using urs for? trolling??

Hi G80,

If you are primarily bottom fishing, your current set up with 50yds of mono topshot may explain why you are looking for sinkers over a kg & more. A mono wind-on of 20 feet or so will suffice imho. With a 50 feet topshot, apart from the drag of the mono requiring very large sinkers to hold bottom, you also lose one of the key advantage of braided line for bottom fishing i.e. ultra sensitivity for bite detection because of the non-stretch braided. Dropping your braided to 65 or even 50lbs will also allow you to use smaller sinkers even in strong current flow. It should also be sufficent for most local bottom bashing and even fishing in our regional waters.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Makairs

P.S. I think Master Angler Saimee uses his SST filled with mono when the 'couttas are on the rampage

[DaFrogman]

Originally Posted by Makaira

If you are primarily bottom fishing, your current set up with 50yds of mono topshot may explain why you are looking for sinkers over a kg & more. A mono wind-on of 20 feet or so will suffice imho. With a 50 feet topshot, apart from the drag of the mono requiring very large sinkers to hold bottom, you also lose one of the key advantage of braided line for bottom fishing i.e. ultra sensitivity for bite detection because of the non-stretch braided. Dropping your braided to 65 or even 50lbs will also allow you to use smaller sinkers even in strong current flow. It should also be sufficent for most local bottom bashing and even fishing in our regional waters.

As usual, Angling Professor Mak is right on the money and I should have mentioned the problem of mono and current. The thicker your line, the more resistance it will have in a current and you will find it harder to hold bottom. Even 50 and 80lb braid have different resistance characteristics that are most evident when jigging in current or on the drift.

Technically, you should be running 50lb braid on your reel. I don't think you can fit that much 80lb braid anyway. Like Mak stated, a 20ft mono or FC windon leader should be enough if all you are doing is bottom fishing. I have started using this system and it has little impact on braid sensitivity, but it saves you braid bcos I found that when I fished straight braid, I always had to cut off the front 10ft of braid. I now run a 5-10m long mono windon connected with a midknot.

Regards,

Saimee.

P.S. I hate barracouta ....

[gubble80]

bro mak and saimee paiseh im still a beginner and wat i understood topshot as the base of the braided line which i would never use it. i use the mono line just to lift up the layer of the braided line on my reel.. now i understand wat does topshot means haha.. it means something like a very long leader... sorry for causing the confusion.. will try using 65 lbs to see how strong current it can hold better..

[DaFrogman]

Originally Posted by gubble80

bro mak and saimee paiseh im still a beginner and wat i understood topshot as the base of the braided line which i would never use it. i use the mono line just to lift up the layer of the braided line on my reel.. now i understand wat does topshot means haha.. it means something like a very long leader... sorry for causing the confusion.. will try using 65 lbs to see how strong current it can hold better..

No problem GB80 dude,

The setup you are running with mono under the braid is called mono backing. In this case, your braid becomes your topshot . I do that sometimes too, to keep the spool as full as possible so that I can retrieve line faster.

Try the 65lb or even 50lb braid dude and try and streamline your rig as much as possible to reduce the resistance to the current as much as possible.

Saimee

[gubble80]

A bit off topic here.. speaking about barracouta, i encountered many barracudas at TP last month and they have really sharp teeths.. i was using 60lbs steel wire leader and still got some of them managed to bite thru them.. any ways to prevent this from happening or should i just use higher poundage wire leader?

[Makaira]

Hi G80,

What you meant was you used 50yds of mono backing rather than a topshot Don't be too sure about the backing never seeing daylight; so make sure you use a well tied knot for the joint

When you downsize the poundage of your braided, make sure you are getting one that has a smaller diameter than the Berkely Big Game 80 you are currently using. For instance, loading another brand of 65# does not necessarily mean it has a smaller diameter than the Big Game 80. If that is the case, it will not result in less drag. Alternatively, you can look for an 80# test that has a smaller diameter if you are so inclined to fishing heavy poundage

Best regards,
Makaira